tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post395167977990814598..comments2023-11-25T01:12:34.326+00:00Comments on Benefit Scrounging Scum: The Death Of Decency #wrbBenefitScroungingScumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-60077895096153786922013-03-23T15:46:19.829+00:002013-03-23T15:46:19.829+00:00This made me weep. Not just for those you write ab...This made me weep. Not just for those you write about but for those who have no idea the future that waits them. And I also weep from frustration that despite all that I am others say in HOC it falls on deaf ears. I am so sorry.Teresa Pearcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-56769373917187015722013-03-23T14:23:02.265+00:002013-03-23T14:23:02.265+00:00This is for the Anonymous who posed the several qu...This is for the Anonymous who posed the several questions. Can I recommend he or she read my blog where I've summarised some of them main points from The Spirit Level - how greater equality benefits ALL in society?<br /><br />http://moggymilitant.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/notes-on-spirit-level.html<br />Moggy Paw Lorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13022392020867694536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-89332030214325429662012-02-06T10:27:17.341+00:002012-02-06T10:27:17.341+00:00The real benefit scrounging scum: http://www.bbc.c...The real benefit scrounging scum: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-16740214Eric Tatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-14027097556767460932012-02-05T13:48:57.486+00:002012-02-05T13:48:57.486+00:00Agree with everything. One thing is especially tru...Agree with <b>everything</b>. One thing is especially true; so much love and support in this community. The one thing they can't take away from us. <br />Thank you for voicing what all of us are thinking and feeling right now. Please remember to rest, though, or you'll have all of us panicking about you :) <br /><br />All the love, pride and support possible to you x xClaireyMilhttps://twitter.com/#!/ClaireyMilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-80847450313769382312012-02-04T18:39:35.481+00:002012-02-04T18:39:35.481+00:00(rebranded Anonymous here, not the original one th...(rebranded Anonymous here, not the original one though)<br /><br />That can backfire, though, hossylass ... I had a free-range duck a few weeks ago, and read the packaging. By the time I'd heard about how the poor duck had been happy paddling in his little pond and free to play with the other ducks until some heartless murderer chopped his head off, I didn't want to eat the poor critter any more!<br /><br />Talking of reading things and regretting it, after reading up on the welfare system, with DLA, ELA, ESA, PIP, JSA, LHA and probably OMGWTFBBQ as well, it's a scary scary tangle.<br /><br />The most recent Anonymous has a point about overpopulation - I'd rather hope we could take action long before reaching that stage though, like China is already because the problem's much worse there. I keep seeing scare-stories about low birth-rates, yet our population keeps going up not down...Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-2177491372886992082012-02-04T13:17:59.291+00:002012-02-04T13:17:59.291+00:00Support your poor tenant farmers, thats what I say...Support your poor tenant farmers, thats what I say!<br />Buy their organic, hand reared, cuddled and cossetted pork and chicken, even if it is a bit more pricey!<br />Its a fair trade to know that the food on your plate will have had a great life!<br /><br />Pork for sale from April, Chicken and eggs available from March ;)<br /><br />{sniggers and scurries off shmelessly}hossylassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-36507792372694385772012-02-04T11:43:19.174+00:002012-02-04T11:43:19.174+00:00Questioner: Of course you can...thanks for keeping...Questioner: Of course you can...thanks for keeping it clean, respectful and intelligible! <br /><br />We could have a really long debate about all this, consider whether actually we're already as a world heading merrily down path 2, but as individual countries are in different stages on different paths. <br /><br />But, it all boils down to one, simple, fiendishly difficult ethical question. Do we decide that all human life is innately of value and act accordingly with the distribution of resources based upon need....or do we head straight down the line to the other decision which ends in labelling people as financially unsustainable, useless eaters and going with the consequences of that? <br /><br />Actually we've all seen where that second line ends up already - genoicide, not just the Nazi's but every other genoicide currently being carried out because one group of people have decided another group of people are less worthy of existence than themselves.<br /><br />If for the sake of argument as the human race we decide to go with the latter, where does it start and end? Are we going to see Logan's Run? How and who will make these decisions, will they be able to exempt themselves or their loved ones? What protections will we have for those not making the decisions, a right of appeal? How honest will that discussion be? <br /><br />That discussion won't just be about illness or disability. It's not that simple. It'll encompass whether one religion thinks followers of another religion are worthy of support as after all they believe them damned to hell anyway. Where will skin colour, sexual orientation, gender etc fit? Could we end up with a situation where women decide we no longer have any need for men because we can harvest enough sperm to guarantee the continuation of species and decide men are no longer sustainable? The permutations are endless. <br /><br />But, whichever and whatever way this debate will eventually have to happen because of simple demographics. For me, the only morally acceptable answer is that all human life is of innate worth and unless we can work out a more just global redistribution system we're all doomed. Doomed I say, doomed ;)BenefitScroungingScumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-3827660832270612522012-02-03T23:22:20.039+00:002012-02-03T23:22:20.039+00:00Questioner said:
Hello, May I ask a "what if&...Questioner said:<br />Hello, May I ask a "what if" question. What if the population increases to the point where there is not enough of everything for everyone. Not enough food production capacity, or house heating capacity, etc for proper survival. <br /><br />The options then do not include everyone haveing enough to live on. Some will have to have less of food, shelter, heating, etc, than they need for basic survival. <br /><br />So the only options include:<br />(1) everyone has a bit less than they need to survive (such that everyone gets ill and non-working within a year or so).<br />(2) some people are allowed to have enough but some do not.<br />(2a) disabled people are allowed to have enough but some working people or important people are not.<br />(2b) all non-disabled working people are allowed to have survivable income but some of the disabled are not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-7248932261267871892012-02-03T13:46:24.155+00:002012-02-03T13:46:24.155+00:00'Anonymous' is a brainwashed coward. Clear...'Anonymous' is a brainwashed coward. Clearly. Don't even have the bottle to be identified. Typical. This is a beautiful and touching piece. Fight the power SPARTACUS. It's not over. The Anonymous' of this world have so much bad karma coming their way I pity them. Still, the study showed this morning that right wingers are clearly less intelligent than left leaning. And here we have it.Sonia Poultonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-80455849492865729392012-02-03T13:29:38.351+00:002012-02-03T13:29:38.351+00:00That was a beautiful article. Your goodness and hu...That was a beautiful article. Your goodness and humanity shine through every word. What a contrast to the nasty rancid trolls. Now the tone of the propaganda has subtly shifted. We're being told essentially not to be ungrateful because 'look how bad things are in India, Indonesis ' or any other new economy. We went through all that I. The 19th Century. It was awful, we went through wars and poverty and then founded the Welfare State. To go backwards would cause the same problems again. The only answer isbto keep on fighting and making ourselves heard. This will be difficult but we must.mrswupplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10012555558218665781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-27235294835562413702012-02-03T07:41:47.917+00:002012-02-03T07:41:47.917+00:00My gorgeous gorgeous girl, I am so proud of you. J...My gorgeous gorgeous girl, I am so proud of you. Just rest for a minute honey and breathe. I dont have any other words for you except to tell you how proud I am of you. and to send you my love. Again. xxfrogpondsrockhttp://frogpondsrock.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-24781832407544266682012-02-02T22:53:22.425+00:002012-02-02T22:53:22.425+00:00Anonymous 5.44
"The idea it's all a consp...Anonymous 5.44<br />"The idea it's all a conspiracy to make money out of increased insurance policy sales seems a bit far-fetched, though, Rose!"<br /><br />I don't think it's /all/ about insurance policy sales, but if you look at Unum's role in the welfare reforms beginning under Labour, their input in the original consultations and their accompanying rallying of the health and unemployment market, followed by a marketing campaign that's running right now, you can see that the big insurance companies are circling like vultures around a market that they have been at the heart of creating.<br /><br />A lot of it went on behind the scenes, but you can see from this link what Unum said publicly the private sector had to gain from welfare reforms. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmselect/cmworpen/401/3021203.htmSunny Cloudsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-10228082770096332712012-02-02T21:35:26.689+00:002012-02-02T21:35:26.689+00:00Anonymous who cant do captcha... keep up! One of t...Anonymous who cant do captcha... keep up! One of the benefits being cut is contributary ESA, paid only to those who have paid National Insurance - it is exactly what it says on the tin, a compulsory insurance payment in return for the assurance of payment if a claim arises.<br />The fact it is not invested properly but used as another tax is irrelevant. Its function is as it is named. You dont know what you car insurance premiums are used on, and its irrelevant - all you need to know is that the insurance company will pay out.<br />The Government are breaking the covenant of "something for something" that they are so keen to keep mentioning...<br />The phrase "something for nothing" does not apply .hossylassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-33330598196064101322012-02-02T19:08:04.464+00:002012-02-02T19:08:04.464+00:00Well said Kaliya, my only concern now is are we go...Well said Kaliya, my only concern now is are we going down the same path as 1939/45.<br />we know how that went and it started with propaganda.Alan Brucehttp://www.access-ability.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-88741338550206797852012-02-02T18:49:04.913+00:002012-02-02T18:49:04.913+00:00It is unbelievable how draconian our lives will co...It is unbelievable how draconian our lives will come from decisions made by just a few rich people who are suppose to be representing our views !!<br /><br />Today I found out how these changes will affect me. I have a heart condition, neurology problems, mobility problems, daily blackouts and a sleep disorder whereby I can fall asleep stood up or talking to people. <br /><br />I have battled the ESA system and finally won my appeal. Two weeks later I was sent the letter I am being reassed again. What a waste of money.<br /><br />I have been trying to move out of my three bedroom home to a ground floor home as I cannot manage my stairs. I have waited 3 years so far and the housing people just laugh when I ask if any properties are available. From the changes I will have to move as my bedrooms are unoccupied other than when my carer stays when I am really bad. So I will be financially penalised for this. I am willing to move NOW but there is nowhere to move to. Why should I be punished and penalised for the lack of housing?<br /><br />My friend will be homeless in June. His crime is not anti social behaviour but being 32 yrs old. He has severe mental health issues and spends a lot of his time in and out of hospital. He asked what will happen to him in June. The housing officer says he needs to sofa surf until hes 35, (3yrs) and then may be able to apply for housing !! His mental health has deterioted to the state that he believes suicide will be the better option than sleeping on the streets. He has no family and most his freinds are in the same boat. He knows 7 people who will be losing their flats. I am not talking about large properties. He lives in a tiny one bedroomed flat where the living room and bedroom are in one area. He has a tiny bathroom and even smaller kitchen large enough for a mini cooker, 2 cupboards and a fridge. Hardly excessive living. He does have the option to top up his rent out of his benefits. He added it up and after his income of JSA of £65 wk he would be minus £30. No money for food or bills.<br /><br />How can millionaire politicians treat their citizens like this? So thats 9 people homeless now that had perfectly good homes that were not living in excessive mansions but were happy living a basic life.<br /><br />Surely creating homelessness all around the country is going to cost far more money when it is spent on bed and breakfast dumps than spending it on housing benefit.<br /><br />We have no life now! Maybe when we are homeless we will get one of these lovely jobs Cameron says we should get. I do have to say to Cameron who keeps spouting that works make you free is I was free until you destroyed me with your dictator policies.<br /><br />Lib Dems should hold their heads in shame for ever supporting these policies and the underhand way they are being implicated. I think my freind may be right and suicide may start to look the better offer.Roseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-28528146649472820572012-02-02T18:35:11.785+00:002012-02-02T18:35:11.785+00:00The best thing to do with anonomass is to ignore i...The best thing to do with anonomass is to ignore it, it's no different than reading the 8 billion comments posted in the Daily Mail every week. It wrote it for a reaction, and got it's reaction, opinion or not, its a dickhead.Amonrosierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02403811621627886616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-84409912870541242502012-02-02T18:34:28.147+00:002012-02-02T18:34:28.147+00:00Hi guys, just thought I would leave my mark with y...Hi guys, just thought I would leave my mark with yourselves. What you have written is quite right and well said. Even today we have seen the other side of the coin with the head of a company associated with the government being allowed to pay himself £183,000 through a private service company. Yet when it comes to benefits, people are being penalised, especially the disabled and vulnerable. I do think it is time for this government to grow a sense of decency; the question is when?Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16108024587900504666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-64018952866253042932012-02-02T18:01:42.997+00:002012-02-02T18:01:42.997+00:00You have a great blog & Im glad its here, the ...You have a great blog & Im glad its here, the people who disagree with the changes will probably be the ones who become ill at some point & turn up at the local welfare rights/citizens advice office & explode when they are told - sorry that all the government says you need to live off of. Like the man who shouted at me cos I wouldn't complete his son's DLA form until the 3 months qualifying period had passed - I know his leg isn't going to grow back but he won't qualify until the 3 months has passed so take it up with parliament - Oh sorry they have just proved how useless thay are as well. As a advisor Im meant to be sympathetic to new claimaints but its going to be really difficult to not say Did you support the welfare reform bill - this is what you get - enjoy<br /><br />Once again Thank you for all you and Sue have doneMoni wronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-20290583860385681112012-02-02T17:54:06.708+00:002012-02-02T17:54:06.708+00:00Anonymous 5.44
You say "I was surprised by t...Anonymous 5.44<br /><br />You say "I was surprised by the article saying "children with serious illnesses and disabilities will have their entitlement to National Insurance contributions removed" - of course, it's *carers* who get the NI credit "<br /><br />I think you're missing something. There are some people that are disabled as children and who, when they grow up, are credited with NI contributions because otherwise they would never be able to get any.<br /><br />These are the children whose NI contributions are being taken away and who will face adulthood dependent on others.Sunny Cloudsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-52280760260255530742012-02-02T17:46:40.365+00:002012-02-02T17:46:40.365+00:00There ARE a few who play the system and who DO man...There ARE a few who play the system and who DO manage to get away with it. But comparatively very few in reality. <br /><br />However the media picked up on some of them. And showcased them in headlines. And showed us that these few were often living in 5 bedroom houses. In Mayfair. With an income from benefits of £25000+ a year, 5 kids, a flatscreen 56inch TV, games consoles like you would not believe and WERE NOT EVEN OF ENGLISH DESCENT, (just to get the point across properly).<br /><br />The government, looking for an excuse to shift the publics eye away from their own scandals, (expenses anyone?), saw this. And made it bigger. And figured that at LAST here was something. So they moved quickly and drip fed the media various horror stories. Which got published. Which got seen. WHICH GOT BELIEVED.<br /><br />And now we are left with this. A ticking time bomb as someone above said. The elite few in power dominating the poor, the vulnerable, the genuinely needy.<br /><br />The elite fat cat bankers got away with their scandals. Now the politicians want to get away with theirs. <br /><br />And by doing this they pretty much have.Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-40460328711482219372012-02-02T17:44:55.657+00:002012-02-02T17:44:55.657+00:00(Not related to either of the Anonymice above - ty...(Not related to either of the Anonymice above - typed before seeing BendyGirl's comment, but delayed by fighting with the %@$ing CAPTCHA thing. I'll get myself a name next time, promise!)<br /><br />I'm not sure what relevance - or credibility - DavidG's claim of income of "zero" has, massive exaggeration?<br /><br />Despite the name, "National Insurance" is no insurance premium - it's a tax like any other, ending up in the same pot that funds the multi-million pound food and drink subsidies for our MPs, the billion pounds we give to India to help them afford the hundred new French fighter jets - insurance, it isn't. Of course many of us are being ripped off, but not by some "insurance policy" you think our taxes go to.<br /><br />I was surprised by the article saying "children with serious illnesses and disabilities will have their entitlement to National Insurance contributions removed" - of course, it's *carers* who get the NI credit - and remember NI pension calculations were recently made much more generous anyway. Will anyone caring for a disabled child be forced to give it up and get a job instead just for the sake of NI credits towards a state pension?<br /><br />The idea it's all a conspiracy to make money out of increased insurance policy sales seems a bit far-fetched, though, Rose!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-37173597730969283502012-02-02T16:54:47.368+00:002012-02-02T16:54:47.368+00:00I believe the last post by Anonymous about having ...I believe the last post by Anonymous about having a pool of people that can make money off re insurance rings true. The disabled are just being used to strike fear into the rest of the population telling them if they don't get insurance look what will happen to you. Some MP's have no doubt bought the Governments propaganda, but I am sure there were a number who were aware all along about what the end game is.<br /><br />Yes many people in Britain do have a sense of fair play which no doubt will be reinstated when they eventually see through the Governments propaganda. However, I fear it will take too long and be too late for many.<br /><br />The only way forward it would appear is to ask for them to review everything again. If everyone where to get behind Pat's Petition by the time it comes up for debate in November 2012, there just might be a sea change in opinion when enough people realise that nearly every family is effected and we are indeed all in this together.Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-80904915350103559722012-02-02T16:26:21.211+00:002012-02-02T16:26:21.211+00:00A note on moderation: All comments are read and op...A note on moderation: All comments are read and opinions taken on board. I don't often reply because I don't have the time or energy, it's not a lack of interest. <br /><br />Also my moderation policy is to publish pretty much everything apart from spam. I do not moderate critical or negative comments, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to express it. However, anything that might get me sued (such as claiming certain companies are directly responsible for deaths) does not get published (unless I was so heavily medicated when I published the comment that I didn't understand it) The only other criteria for comments not being published is if they've become personally threatening to mine or anyone else's safety. So, if you really feel the need to tell me I'm a twat for not doing x, y or z that's up to you, I'll publish it. But if you tell me I'm a twat and you believe I should be killed for being such a twat....well, then funnily enough that won't get published! <br /><br />Oh but do please pick names to use Anonymouses. It's awfully confusing and dull with all these Anon's floating around...and if you really want to have a go at sick and disabled people for having the temerity to suggest we might have some rights...then have enough respect to make yourself up a nice little name before you verbally kick us in the head there's a dear. <br />Thank you, BendyGirlBenefitScroungingScumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-69913400120623394412012-02-02T16:17:26.805+00:002012-02-02T16:17:26.805+00:00@ds I'm well aware 'he' and you're...@ds I'm well aware 'he' and you're prob right it is a he, is a troll.<br /><br />A confused one at that. But one that is struggling to express themselves. Like many of us. <br /><br />Behind it all is someone asking a question, stuck in difficult circumstances that they can't seem to find their way out of.<br /><br />No indication yet their just having a go. Unless their willing to say they are. The mark of a troll is constant hassle.<br /><br />It's a lot to get your head round sometimes.<br /><br />It's a moderated blog after all :)Wheeliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798837094383674273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-1336757131975927182012-02-02T16:01:58.895+00:002012-02-02T16:01:58.895+00:00I'm sorry, but I think that this is about mone...I'm sorry, but I think that this is about money. Not a billion or so saved in benefits, but much, much more than that.<br /><br />It's about creating and reinforcing a large pool of ever more desperate people who'll take any job they can get at any wage with any conditions and of people in debt so that they are willing to pay extortionate interest rates for many years. It's about persuading many people to pay large premiums for sickness and unemployment insurance and private services ranging from essential equipment to nursing factories, I mean private residential care and hospital facilities.<br /><br />What they save in a bit of benefits is peanuts. It's what money they can make out of collective national desperation and fear. <br /><br />It's the money that politicians can make when they retire from appointments with companies that are making these profits both directly through government contracts and indirectly through benefitting from cheap labour and desperate customers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com