tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post7658895292191754904..comments2023-11-25T01:12:34.326+00:00Comments on Benefit Scrounging Scum: We Have A Dream Speech #hardesthitBenefitScroungingScumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-56267367924836754302011-05-15T15:17:47.623+01:002011-05-15T15:17:47.623+01:00As a stroke survivor who uses a wheelchair when he...As a stroke survivor who uses a wheelchair when he needs to. Who can't go out unaided or accompanied, well, yeah, it's an annoyance, and an embarrassment and demeaning. But that's the nature of having bit's that don't work.<br /><br />I have no problem competing with others for work. It's the name of the game. And, yup, I do understand there are those who should never be asked to work.<br /><br />What I do object to is going through the routine of finding work, only to find that I have to go through yet another medical, sorted by the prospective employer, totally independent of uk.gov, to assess the bloomin' risk to the employer and/or the risk to their insurers. Massive fail.<br /><br />In fact, I want to be assessed. Not because some monkey wants to work out what I can't do. <br /><br />But to work WITH me to help me do that I CAN do, to the benefit of both of us. Well, me actually.<br /><br />It's all back to front. It all comes across as sorting 'wheat from chaff', playing on popular prejudiced of a weakened, unwilling, unresponsive, despondent and unwanted underclass.<br /><br />Huh.Wheeliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798837094383674273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-20180043395351123612011-05-12T15:34:47.984+01:002011-05-12T15:34:47.984+01:00I was shocked to see that there was no mention of ...I was shocked to see that there was no mention of The Hardest Hit march on the BBC News last night (Wednesday). Please join me in complaining to BBC Newswatch about the lack of mainstream reporting perpetuating our invisibility, so it's more likely our complaint will be aired on the Newswatch programme on Friday evening (BBC News Channel, Fridays at 8.45pm). Thanks everyone!Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04924279884167633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-82676178380779051102011-05-12T13:55:37.230+01:002011-05-12T13:55:37.230+01:00And I know of two in the last year who had their E...And I know of two in the last year who had their ESA/IB or DLA reduced or stopped who will never show in the suicide figures, because they simply gave in. <br /><br />They stopped doing what they needed to do to maintain their health either by not eating regularly, or began eating and boozing heavily. They stopped taking their medication or took it irregularly. They just didn't care any more. Slow suicide.<br /><br />Just as bad were the reactions of their 'friends' and family. Because the presumed 'medics' at reassessment reduced or stopped their benefits, when I corrected their friends and family when they used comments such as "I always knew they were trying to max out their claim" Top rate care and mobility? How? I was yelled at big time. <br /><br />It's the state, the state hire experts, they must be right. Cobblers.<br /><br />The public misconception of assessment and reassessment is way out of wack. <br /><br />Thanks for pushing public education BG. Public perception needs to be challenged.<br /><br />There's another angle. Finance companies and banks are all too ready to lend to people on DLA, because it's considered a regular income. Should the DLA stop, their stuffed. Creating another underclass.<br /><br />See what you're saying about principles and values, tho' I reject the better world bit. Not going to happen. <br /><br />One bigot is always going to be a poisoned apple in the bottom of barrel. There's always going to be those who are going to bitch that someone they perceive is having something more than they have. I think we have to live with that.Wheeliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798837094383674273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-85143882381818100802011-05-12T09:35:57.960+01:002011-05-12T09:35:57.960+01:00Jackart/Anon: I think you've missed the point ...Jackart/Anon: I think you've missed the point of this speech. I do consider it to be unspeakably horrible that there were so many victims of disability hate crime we could have listed in this speech. How can someone being pissed on as they lay dying not be unsppeakably awful? That's not a benefits issue, none of those named in the speech died during the coalition govt's rule. Suicides seem to have increased but with no real stats it's only a 'seem' to have atm. I know of one directly related to benefits while Labour were still in charge, and I've heard of three since. To be very clear, it's my personal opinion those suicides would have happened if Labour had got back in as it's the Labour policy of ESA causing such problems. <br /><br />Calling for access to workplaces etc also has nothing to do with benefits, or cost in this context. I certainly know you support as many disabled people working as possible.<br /><br />This isn't a speech about more money. Certainly, welfare benefits are a part of all this, but the main thrust is about principles, values, the expectations disabled people should have of ourselves and a desire for a better world. All things I'd have thought you would agree withBenefitScroungingScumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-63548750324162418972011-05-11T13:48:37.502+01:002011-05-11T13:48:37.502+01:00They are not just going to give us a little less m...They are not just going to give us a little less money jackart, they are going to try and take everything away and treat us as if we are not disabled at all. Sounds like you've fallen for the tory "people on benefits are all work shy scroungers" propaganda. I hate to say this but after reading your comment I hope you fall too sick to work and have to apply for ESA and go through the humiliation of being treated like a liar and drain on society, then see how you feel about what this lady is writing.<br />And to anonymous up there, I know what you are saying there is too much being spent, but many people really cannot work. And for those who possibly could there has to be investment in making workplaces suitable for the disabled and educating employers about things like issues surrounding disability and mental health issues before they can expect us all to successfully find employment. And showing an advert where a man asks a colleague about his mental health issues without prejudice is NOT ENOUGH.<br /> To just throw us all on JSA and expect us to compete with the millions of unemployed people who are fit to work and have only been unemployed a couple of weeks is just ridiculous.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04236726946668367157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-73767760274473310402011-05-11T13:03:35.832+01:002011-05-11T13:03:35.832+01:00I suggest that both the commentators have a look a...I suggest that both the commentators have a look at Maslows heirachy of need.<br /><br />Basic needs should be met.<br /><br />If you are a prisoner in a british prison you do not have to "slop out" as this is seen as degrading and inhumane.<br />And yet disabled people are regularly told to use a commode in their bedroom.<br />So criminals get treated better.<br /><br />Remember disability is not a lifestyle choice, neither is poverty, or lying in your own feaces.<br />And yet society is happy to ignore that this happens.<br /><br />This isn't about wanting more, this is about fighting the fact that the Government want to give us less, and in a lot of cases, nothing.<br /><br />But I supose until you have lay in your own shit, without having a drink for over 12 hours, in unbelieveable pain and unable to take your medication, then I guess you just dont get it.<br /><br />Its not about "more", its about removing the susbsistance allowance that disabled people currently have.Hossylassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-36283803812151413092011-05-11T11:49:08.037+01:002011-05-11T11:49:08.037+01:00I do like you Bendy but I'm with Jackart on th...I do like you Bendy but I'm with Jackart on this. The welfare state at the time of it's formation was a provider of the necessities of life. It is now a monster.<br /><br />Your Jerusalem cannot be built because you want more than is possibly affordable. Disabled people will be looked after, always, but probably not in the style that they have become accustomed to. The public purse is exhausted. The real world will become harder for us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-35032244237285201792011-05-11T08:52:59.852+01:002011-05-11T08:52:59.852+01:00Sorry, BG... you're going to loose people with...Sorry, BG... you're going to loose people with this article. Sure you might have the hard-left jumping up and down, but everyone else?<br /><br />"disabled people are victim of unspeakable horrors"<br /><br />Yeah... I've seen "horrors" and 'a little less money' isn't it.<br /><br />"We can never be satisfied while disabled people kill themselves for fear of the DWP"<br /><br />Are peeople topping themselves more than when Labour were in power? Really? Let's have some stats not an isolated example. People top themselves all the time. The given reason is not usually the real reason.<br /><br />As an example of the people who are being asked to pay for all of your wishlist of "rights", that sort of Hyperbole pisses me off.<br /><br />"We refuse to believe in a world which bankers choose to increase bonuses whilst disabled people choose between food and heat."<br /><br />Allow me to paraphrase: "Bankers have money. I wants it. Waaa!" Remember rich people aren't taking your money (economics is not a zero-sum game), you're demanding theirs and attempting to apply emotional blackmail to do it. How do you think that goes down? The top 1% of tax-payers are responsible for almost 25% of income tax receipts. YOU WANT MORE? Bailouts I hear you bleat? The Government will get all (and more) of that back. <br /><br />And paraphrasing Jerusalem and the Gettysburg address? You're overdoing it, I'm afraid.Jackarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04477130724830922566noreply@blogger.com