tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post9115689222230299663..comments2023-11-25T01:12:34.326+00:00Comments on Benefit Scrounging Scum: Knowledge Is Power - So What Do The DWP Have To Hide?BenefitScroungingScumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-90362249630529435742012-08-02T12:01:49.810+01:002012-08-02T12:01:49.810+01:00What's all the recent Atos-love about? Descrip...What's all the recent Atos-love about? Descriptors aside, they deliberately lie and falsify many, many medical reports - including mine, which doesn't even sound like it's about me - and thus deny people their entitlements. In my case causing financial disaster and worsening my condition because I can't afford equipment and care I need!<br /><br />They are NOT innocent. Their hands are at least as bloody as DWPs', and I feel it's a worse betrayal - a Doctor, a person I am supposed to be able to trust with my health, flat-out lied about me for money.jaimeliciousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-55025387759629406412012-07-10T18:32:32.922+01:002012-07-10T18:32:32.922+01:00"DWP are responsible for (emphasis mine);
De..."DWP are responsible for (emphasis mine);<br /><br />Designing and developing the format and criteria for assessments"<br /><br />We need to be careful about taking things at face value. Having responsibility for is not the same as having sole input into. We know from existing publications that both UNUM, particularly, and ATOS had a significant input into the design of the WCA process.<br /><br />"Reviewing all evidence presented by an individual, including but not limited to the report from Atos Healthcare, and making a decision on an individual’s entitlement to benefit"<br /><br />It's important to remember that the first Harrington report found that this was simply not happening because DWP decision makers did not feel able to overrule an ATOS decision because 'they're doctors'. As that 'doctor as demigod' concept is deeply embedded into British culture I'm not convinced they will really have fixed it, no matter the claims of extra training and the like.DavidGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734028655032503805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-6759201467993812072012-07-04T21:31:27.658+01:002012-07-04T21:31:27.658+01:00One can't escape the conclusion that the gover...One can't escape the conclusion that the government has built in as many difficulties to getting awards as possible, in order to slow down or even nullify the process of appealing, and is desperately trying to cover up the fact that its bluff is being called.<br /><br />It is good that there are commentators like yourself and Sue Marsh and others to help the rest of us understand what is happening.Judithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07056868850692279739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-63831132274805779372012-07-04T21:23:06.657+01:002012-07-04T21:23:06.657+01:00If it is the video about appealing against a Work ...If it is the video about appealing against a Work Capability Assessment decision you are referring to, it is currently available on YouTube again here:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXQU-wrOHjE&feature=em-share_video_user<br /><br />I have been able to copy a code on the YouTube site to embed it in my blog at: <br /><br />http://judithtaylor.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/alone-we-whisper-together-we-shout.html<br /><br />You are welcome to pass on the link to my blog in case it disappears from YouTube again.Judithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07056868850692279739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-49230169905126255082012-07-04T20:42:34.629+01:002012-07-04T20:42:34.629+01:00grr i cant see the words - tries again. We NEED t...grr i cant see the words - tries again. We NEED to be able to download this video from DWP so we can keep it for future reference and passs it on to other people.<br /><br />also this govt is wasting money sending pepole who will never get better to many many medicals just a waste of money and makes people sickerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-239288257779609892012-07-04T20:41:19.906+01:002012-07-04T20:41:19.906+01:00how do we download this video - we need to - then ...how do we download this video - we need to - then we could maybe email it to each other and hold it - so we can continually upload it to help others. it is ridiculous to continually medical someone who has NO CURE for their disability it is just wasting more and more moneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-50902303068831241552012-07-04T19:55:00.187+01:002012-07-04T19:55:00.187+01:00How many times has Grayling justified these new te...How many times has Grayling justified these new tests by claiming that with the old system people didn't even have to have face-to-face testing, they just had to fill in forms, he said. Well, the old system's no different from the new system then, it turns out. Is there anything at all Grayling says which can be believed?Bill Krusehttp://www.economania.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-54275750097785992752012-07-04T19:18:41.156+01:002012-07-04T19:18:41.156+01:00Every thing to hide? Because of disgrace!Every thing to hide? Because of disgrace!Hellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622208944935355868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-28085390240651633632012-07-04T18:54:04.324+01:002012-07-04T18:54:04.324+01:00They don't like us! Why? Yep they are hiding!They don't like us! Why? Yep they are hiding!Hellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622208944935355868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-13222333088772406632012-07-04T18:22:05.707+01:002012-07-04T18:22:05.707+01:00In terms of openness and information, I've fou...In terms of openness and information, I've found the DWP has gotten very uncooperative with even vaguely sensitive FoI requests - giving refusals that don't actually add up if you read the ICO's advice.<br /><br />For instance, they've twice refused to release consultation submissions because they plan to publish them. However, this is only valid if the intention to publish was clear before the request was made, if there is some clarity about when it will be published (though it needn't be a specified date), and if it is reasonable in all the circumstances to withhold pending publication. Even if all those things are true, it's subject to the public interest test, and the ICO is very clear that class-based exemptions (such as the intention to publish) carry no inherent public interest in maintaining the exemption - that has to be established on the specifics of the case.<br /><br />So the DWP really don't like people knowing what they're doing, why, or who's saying what to whom.Sam Barnett-Cormackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01904395421765346531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-53703268638443392982012-07-04T17:14:27.482+01:002012-07-04T17:14:27.482+01:00"Monitoring service delivery against contract..."Monitoring service delivery against contractual requirements"<br /><br />This IS NOT being done, with the DWP claiming that it is a contractual right, not a contractual obligation, (according to an e-mail from a senior member of the DWP). Who in their right mind does not monitor the compliance of a contract worth over £100 million a year?Holmeyhttp://dwpexamination.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-25467219215194633862012-07-04T13:54:06.228+01:002012-07-04T13:54:06.228+01:00I think the Gov trying to save money but actually ...I think the Gov trying to save money but actually they have nt and want to hide the mess.....they really don t want disclosure of distress caused to people!Hellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622208944935355868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-64647684378942673222012-07-04T13:47:20.070+01:002012-07-04T13:47:20.070+01:00Clearly nobody is sure about this mess us sickies ...Clearly nobody is sure about this mess us sickies and professionals. I get conflicting stories all the time from my sick and disabled friends....and all different. Even get conflicting stories from professionals I think it's a case of check and double check your own case! Sadly wrong for those that can not?Hellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622208944935355868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-82360356602468358002012-07-04T13:04:37.307+01:002012-07-04T13:04:37.307+01:00I think we have all heard the defence 'I was a...I think we have all heard the defence 'I was acting under orders' before.<br />They are just trying to win the pr war against things like this https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=137616559654249 one on facebook and the horror stories on http://www.afteratos.com/<br />Interesting about the 6 months from no face to face bit assmnt. I was placed into the support group in April with no medical exam. I hope this Atos doctor spoonydoc saw was wrong.<br />Tls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-91289406518795223602012-07-04T11:40:55.663+01:002012-07-04T11:40:55.663+01:00There are some good explanations about who does wh...There are some good explanations about who does what bit elsewhere in the FAQ's which address some of that. <br />However, your GP's wrong. Not everyone who doesn't get a medical goes through under the special rules, and the award length is set by DWP. <br />There's also information relevant to this about the automatic issuing of ESA forms, when and where they come from...BenefitScroungingScumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34940564.post-30694302193803065342012-07-04T11:37:45.334+01:002012-07-04T11:37:45.334+01:00I would be slightly cautious here regarding the &q...I would be slightly cautious here regarding the "no assessment" having been through this process myself. <br /><br />Although I was put in the support group the first time round without assessment, I was called back just 6 months later. This time I had to have a medical (home visit). The doctor was surprised I needed one and phoned up to find out why, saying "frankly, this is embarrassing"!<br /><br />I was put back in the support group and he recommended I not be called back for assessment for the longest possible time, which he said would be 2 to 3 years.<br /><br />However he explained to me that if you are not given a medical, you are put under the same category as those with less than 6 months to live and will therefore be reassessed every 6 months. Furthermore you will be required to have a medical at the next application.<br /><br />In other words, according to this doctor, although you *can* get ESA without medical assessment, it will only be for 6 months and then you will almost certainly get medically assessed anyway. <br /><br />To my mind it seemed a complete waste of time for anyone with a serious chronic illness, simply delaying the inevitable.<br /><br />I would be interested to know which version is correct and whether it is in fact possible to get a long term award without medical.Spoonydocnoreply@blogger.com